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		<title>Vipul at 02:22, 9 August 2007</title>
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&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;==Statement==&lt;br /&gt;
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In a [[Noetherian ring]], any [[irreducible ideal]] is [[primary ideal|primary]].&lt;br /&gt;
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==Relation with other results==&lt;br /&gt;
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* [[Irreducible implies prime (PIR)]] uses a very similar approach&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Irreducible implies prime (Dedekind)]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Proof==&lt;br /&gt;
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===Hands-on proof===&lt;br /&gt;
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Let &amp;lt;math&amp;gt;R&amp;lt;/math&amp;gt; be a Noetherian ring and &amp;lt;math&amp;gt;P&amp;lt;/math&amp;gt; an irreducible ideal in &amp;lt;math&amp;gt;R&amp;lt;/math&amp;gt;. Suppose &amp;lt;math&amp;gt;ab \in P&amp;lt;/math&amp;gt; but &amp;lt;math&amp;gt;a \notin P&amp;lt;/math&amp;gt;. We need to show that there exists a &amp;lt;math&amp;gt;n&amp;lt;/math&amp;gt; such that &amp;lt;math&amp;gt;b^n \in P&amp;lt;/math&amp;gt;.&lt;br /&gt;
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Define &amp;lt;math&amp;gt;P_i&amp;lt;/math&amp;gt; as the ideal of all elements &amp;lt;math&amp;gt;x&amp;lt;/math&amp;gt; such that &amp;lt;math&amp;gt;xb^i \in P&amp;lt;/math&amp;gt;. Clearly we get an ascending chain of ideals in &amp;lt;math&amp;gt;R&amp;lt;/math&amp;gt;:&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;math&amp;gt;P = P_0 \le P_1 \le P_2 \le \ldots&amp;lt;/math&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Since &amp;lt;math&amp;gt;R&amp;lt;/math&amp;gt; is Noetherian, there exists a natural number &amp;lt;math&amp;gt;n&amp;lt;/math&amp;gt; such that &amp;lt;math&amp;gt;P_n = P_m&amp;lt;/math&amp;gt; for all &amp;lt;math&amp;gt;m \ge n&amp;lt;/math&amp;gt;. In other words, there exists a &amp;lt;math&amp;gt;n&amp;lt;/math&amp;gt; such that if &amp;lt;math&amp;gt;b^{n+1}x \in P&amp;lt;/math&amp;gt;, then &amp;lt;math&amp;gt;b^nx \in P&amp;lt;/math&amp;gt; for any &amp;lt;math&amp;gt;x \in R&amp;lt;/math&amp;gt;.&lt;br /&gt;
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Now let &amp;lt;math&amp;gt;Q = P + (a)&amp;lt;/math&amp;gt; and &amp;lt;math&amp;gt;R = P + (b^n)&amp;lt;/math&amp;gt;. Clearly, &amp;lt;math&amp;gt;Q \cap R&amp;lt;/math&amp;gt; contains &amp;lt;math&amp;gt;P&amp;lt;/math&amp;gt;. We want to show that &amp;lt;math&amp;gt;Q \cap R = P&amp;lt;/math&amp;gt;.&lt;br /&gt;
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For this, suppose &amp;lt;math&amp;gt;y \in Q \cap R&amp;lt;/math&amp;gt;. Then we can write:&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;math&amp;gt;y = p_1 + ua = p_2 + vb^n&amp;lt;/math&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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where &amp;lt;math&amp;gt;p_i \in P&amp;lt;/math&amp;gt;. This tells us that:&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;math&amp;gt;ua - vb^n \in P&amp;lt;/math&amp;gt;.&lt;br /&gt;
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multiplying both sides by &amp;lt;math&amp;gt;b&amp;lt;/math&amp;gt; we get:&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;math&amp;gt;uab - vb^{n+1} \in P&amp;lt;/math&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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By our assumption, &amp;lt;math&amp;gt;ab \in P&amp;lt;/math&amp;gt; and hence &amp;lt;math&amp;gt;uab \in P&amp;lt;/math&amp;gt;.&lt;br /&gt;
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This gives us:&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;math&amp;gt;vb^{n+1} \in P&amp;lt;/math&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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but from the property of &amp;lt;math&amp;gt;n&amp;lt;/math&amp;gt;, &amp;lt;math&amp;gt;vb^n \in P&amp;lt;/math&amp;gt;  and hence &amp;lt;math&amp;gt;y = p_2 + vb^n \in P&amp;lt;/math&amp;gt;.&lt;br /&gt;
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Thus any element of &amp;lt;math&amp;gt;Q \cap R&amp;lt;/math&amp;gt; is in &amp;lt;math&amp;gt;P&amp;lt;/math&amp;gt;, so &amp;lt;math&amp;gt;Q \cap R = P&amp;lt;/math&amp;gt;.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Comparison with the proof for principal ideal rings===&lt;br /&gt;
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In the case of principal ideal rings, we employ a very similar proof, except that the &amp;lt;math&amp;gt;n&amp;lt;/math&amp;gt; is replaced by 1.&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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